Not sure what controversy there is to installing Kerdi. It really is pretty easy. Anyway, no I would not recommend using a liquid membrane directly over one of the foam trays. If you are intent on using Hydroban an excellent choice or RedGuard I wouldn't use. 12/08/2008 · Re: Kerdi or Noble or Redguard I agree with Tileman1. However, Redgard will work well when applied to correct installations. A friend of mine just relocated to a new city and bought a restored home where the contractor put on 4 coats of Redgard on slope. Elastomeric or liquid waterproofing membranes are one of the most convenient methods of waterproofing shower walls before installing tile. These membranes consist of products such as Custom Building Products’ Redgard and Laticrete’s Hydrobarrier and Hydroban and Mapei’s Aquadefense. I will refer to all the membranes as. 31/01/2012 · Can a liquid membrane be used with the kerdi. I was thinking kerdi the walls and use the liquid in the voids with the liquid overlapping the kerdi, thinking at least 2''. If you understand how Kerdi relies on over lapping to waterproof seams, you should feel very comfortable with mixing liquid onto Kerdi. I wouldn't worry about a full 2". 13/07/2015 · Mike Holmes talks about Schluter®-KERDI-BOARD--the multi-functional tile substrate and building panel. KERDI-BOARD can also be used to create bonded waterproof assemblies. It consists of an extruded polystyrene foam panel, with a special reinforcement material on both sides and fleece webbing for effective anchoring in thin-set.
RedGuard is sporting some pretty impressibe perm and transmission numbers. Kerdi over sheetrock, kerdi board, Hydroban, Aqua Defense, whatever. I charge the same for a kerdi board shower as I do for a kerdi shower as I do for a liquid shower. All have benefits. 23/10/2016 · Good day, I will be picking up my ceramic wall and floor tiles today to begin my shower. I have installed Denshild board with two coats of redguard as waterproofing. My question is what thinset is. 13/06/2014 · Re: Schluter vs. Redguard - thinset? I love the schluter system. The drain set up is great and allows for easy layout around it. Waterproofs nicely over various substrates. That said I have used red guard for budget minded projects and it works as well. I have even done a few hybrids with a. 22/12/2012 · I don't want to get in a debate over using kerdi and all that I just have two main questions: 1. Is it really necessary to pre-slope for my pan liner given it is such a small shower and the pan liner is really just a back-up for the redgard 2. How do I seal around a standard drain with redgard. 2. Go over the drywall with Kerdi. Schluter recommends their Kerdi product over drywall. It would be faster and easier than the way the contractor wants to do it and probably the most logical step forward. They have easy videos and instructions online if he’s not familiar with the process.
Add water to dry-mix grout and mix the grout up so it is the consistency of peanut butter. Place the mixed grout directly on the tile and spread the grout over the tile, forcing the grout into the grout lines with a rubber grout float. Allow the grout to dry for 15 minutes. 28/01/2011 · If you have a piece of porcelain over Kerdi, the thinset is sandwiched between 2 fairly impermeable layers. Modified thinset can take a few days to dry under those conditions. That's why Schluter recommends non modified. As you can see, all other membranes say modified is OK.
RedGard® as Crack Prevention Membrane. Force RedGard® into cracks with the flat side of the trowel, roller or brush. Using a 3/16"-1/4" 5-6 mm V-notch trowel or 3/8" 9.5 mm rough textured roller. Use the flat side of the trowel and flatten the ridges to form a continuous, even coat of material. Whether or not you need a Kerdi membrane is a factor of use. In normal residential use I wouldn't worry about it. Backerboard plus a waterproofing membrane like Redgard is all that is needed for tub surrounds with thinset then tile. Kerdi really offers very little advantage over hardiboard plus membrane. 14/07/2008 · Re: Red guard vs. Schluter We use redguard all the time, we cover everything with it in steam showers, and we always cover any horizontal surfaces with it in wet areas, benches, window sills, wall caps, etc. Works for what we do, so far havn't had any failures. 25/12/2017 · Just installed the DensShield in the tub/shower surround. Next is to get prep for the stone mosaic I bought for one wall. Since the mosaic is only 1/4" think, I obtained a small amount of 1/8" Schluter Ditra to bump it out to match the 3/8" marble tiles.
Schluter ®-KERDI is a pliable sheet-applied waterproofing membrane and vapor-retarder designed for the direct application of tile. KERDI is ideal for use in tiled showers, bathtub surrounds, residential steam showers, and other tile applications in wet areas. Grout is porous, sealing it won't protect you. Also, You need one vapor barrier either behind it or over it. Redguard would be an over it application. You can't have 2 or you create a moisturizer sandwich. After much research I used Kerdi so I am familiar with that. But I did do a little research on redguard.
Waterproof Bathtub Walls with RedGard Easy as Painting Walls. Kerdi serves as a vapor barrier of sorts but no matter what you put up as a vapor barrier there will always be a certain amount of vapor that penetrates the tile and goes into the stud bay. could I use modified thinset to secure it and then Redguard over it then thinset and tile? 26/04/2018 · Hello I am looking for the best liquid waterproofing membrane over Durock cement board in a regular shower NOT a steam shower and the products my looking at are Hydro Ban, Redguard, and Durock has a fairly new product they have now USG Durock liquid membrane, the Hydro Ban is the only one that has to be used with their sheet membrane if used. Aug 27, 2014 · RedGuard and Kerdi are not designed as a primary waterproofing product for an exterior deck build. Here is an action shot of the deck. johnfrwhipple, Aug 26, 2014. Wood Look Tile Shower The original bathtub was converted to a shower with a new glass enclosure. "I kept the layout the same, but I. 20/09/2013 · I would check over with the tile guys at this forum:, to see if redguard by itself is can be the waterproof foundation on walls or floors, in lieu of cement board on walls, and vinyl liner or copper pan on floor.
03/12/2008 · Tiling directly over sheetrock in a wet area like a shower or tub surround is a code violation. Without pulling down the sheetrock your best bet is as you wrote: use Schluter's Kerdi membrane over the drywall and tile over that. Do not use the premixed thinset or the premixed grout that is sold in resealable tubs at the box stores. I have done many showers and tub surrounds over the years and up until 6 months ago, none of them had any kerdi or hydro ban. Now just yesterday we gutted a master bathroom that was built in 1987. I’ve got about 600 sq. ft. to lay in Travertine over 9 yr. old concrete slab. The original slab is a mess. 24/02/2018 · The problem is that nothing really is meant to adhere to the composite shower pan. Redguard over Kerdi-band has not been tested, so I am unsure of how it would hold up over the long term. With a skim-coat of thinset on it, one would think that the bond would be good. RedGard Waterproofing and Crack Prevention Membrane prevents cracks in tile and stone floors due to surface movement. The membrane also produces a moisture barrier. Suitable for use in residential and commercial tile and stone installations. Designed for interior and exterior use; Easy to use and can be applied by roller, trowel or airless sprayer.
We push it in with a scraper and redguard over it. Once it’s dry there will be a nice reinforced corner where there was once a trouble area. Once the seams were dry, we’ll rolled on 2 coats of the redguard. Once the final coat had turned red, it is time to tile. what’s a blog post without a Vector photo-bomb. 03/12/2014 · I can usually be ready to tile a couple of days earlier with the Kerdi system than with the liquid w/p system. For instance, with a 3×4 new construction I can hang the wall board, hang the Kerdi on the walls and pull the mud in one day. Second day I start running tile on the wall using a ledger board. At the end of the day, I Kerdi the shower. How uncoupling membranes like Schluter Ditra, Laticrete Stratamat, and Custom Redgard Uncoupling Membrane work and their advantages over cement board.
Shampoo niches are like windows: three-diimensional holes in walls that make water leaks much more difficult to stop. In the case of shampoo niches, there are some great fluid-applied waterproofing membranes available. Michal likes Laticrete over RedGuard because it has a more buttery texture and can be applied with a trowel. 06/07/2008 · Re: Schluter Shower substrate We actually usually use a site formed base using sand mixmy local supplier has one blended w/ a larger aggregate than over the counter blend mixed w/ water and 1/2 Latricrete 3701. Redguard passes the ANSI A118.10 and A118.12, which include waterproofing. Shower pans are a critical assembly and have to be treated as a system. Both Schluter sheet membrane Kerdi and Laticrete liquid membrane Hydroban use a wide flange drain assembly that improves the transition area between membrane and drain.
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